John Crandall: Same Tree But Where?

My ggg-grandparents:

JOHN CRANDAL/Crandle/Crandall b. MA (US Census 1880); b.1778/9; d. 20 Aug 1830 (g.s) ae 51 yrs; Evergreen Cemetery, Ontario Co, NY; marr. int. 5 Nov 1801 Dighton “Massachusetts, Marriages, 1695-1910”; marr. 3 Jan 1802 Dighton (town record) PHEBE FREEMAN b. MA (US Census 1880); b. 1785 d. 7 Nov 1842 (g.s) ae 57 yrs; Evergreen Cemetery, Ontario Co, NY

Are these two individuals my gggg-grandparents? (Many possible spellings include Crandal/Crandle/Crandol and Elisabeth/Elisebeth/Prat)

JOHN CRANDAL/Crandle b.?; d.?; marr int.. 27 Aug 1772 Town Record Dighton, Bristol Co, MA; marr. 18 Sep 1772 Town Record Dighton, Bristol Co, MA ELISABETH PRATT b. 1737 Town Record Dighton, Bristol Co, MA; chr. 10 Nov 1737 Town Record Dighton, Bristol Co, MA; d.?

If so, who are parents of John Crandall who married Elisabeth Pratt?  Are they  Esther & Col. John Crandall (Peter Crandall; Eldr John Crandall)?

Name: John Crandall; Gender: Male; Birthdate: Jan 1732; Birthplace: Westerly, Washington, Rhode Island; Father’s Name: John Crandall; Mother’s Name: Esther

Indexing Project (Batch) Number C50201-1, System Origin: Rhode.Island-      ODM,GS Fil number: 930814 Rhode Island Also, Births and Christenings, 1600-1914

Who, then, is this Elizabeth Crandall?   Elizabeth Crandall is listed as early settler 1803 in this book I can’t find online:  Early Settlers of New York State: Their Ancestors and Descendants, Volumes I-VI (PART I – i-iii) Janet Wethy Foley; Heritage Books,ISBN 0788437119, 9780788437113

Historical & Anecdotal Information about John Crandall & Phebe Freeman

daughter Francis Durgan reports in US Census 1880 they were born in MA

married by Eldr Enoch Goff (Dighton Town Record), pastor of the (West) Dighton Christian Church, 7th Day Baptist

grave markers in Evergreen Cemetery in Ontario County, NY note ages in years

Capt. John’s military service Military Commissions of Early 19th Century Ontario County = JOHN H. CRANDELL CAPTAIN 05/08/1815 39TH INF. REG

Capt. John’s intestate paper and Phebe’s will are available

Phebe Crandall is mentioned in Ontario Co history: http://www.townofbristol.org/thistplus.html  “On February 7, 1805, the First Baptist Church of Bristol was organized, with 34 members: …and Phoebe and Margaret Crandall.  Reverend Solomon Goodale became their pastor and held regular and stated meetings in different locations.”

http://history.rays-place.com/ny/bristol-ny.htm “Sylvanus Jones and John Crandall were settlers in 1802” = Story of Bristol, New York from History of Ontario County New York Edited by Conover & Compiled by Aldridge, D. Mason& Co, 1893

Are John and Phebe Crandall listed on any tax rolls in Ontario County, NY?

infant son Leonard died in MA: A cousin read this in family Bible now lost

John drove a 4 horse stage coach and was a tavern keeper (page no longer accessible)

http://www.townofbristol.org/thistplus.html  “Crandall, John— About 1802.  Tavern keeper; ran a four horse stage”

Capt. John’s middle H  http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/a/g/Ronald-L-Sage/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-1006.html might be for gg grandmother to Elizabeth Pratt who was Elizabeth Harvey.  Elisha Harvey was a well-known Rev. War hero in Dighton, which is another possibility.  Maybe H in his honor.

Elizabeth Pratt Crandall’s brothers came to Ontario County from Dighton in about 1806 but didn’t stay: Jabez (1745-1827) and Jonathan (1748-1822) Pratt brothers married respectively Hopestill Eddy and Elizabeth Luther (Dighton Town Record).

Did Phebe Freeman Crandall’s brothers come to NY State?

Phebe and John’s Children middle names, birth & death dates unproven

  1. Leonard Crandal 1802-1802 no proof
  2. Phebe Freeman Crandal 1804 -1875
  3. John Harvey Crandal 1806 -1873
  4. Elizabeth Pratt Crandal 1810-1859
  5. Francis Marie Crandal 1812-1885
  6. Caroline Matilda Crandal 1815-1833
  7. Charles Goodale Crandal 1816-1873
  8. Sarah Ann Crandal 1819-1884
  9. Ann Janette Crandal 1823-1853
  10. David Freeman Crandall 1827-1873

Additional Notes

John Crandall in Dighton may have served in Revolutionary War as his name is             associated with RI, MA, and Dighton and appears in muster & pay rolls.

Are Elizabeth Pratt or John Crandall listed on MA tax rolls in Dighton or          surrounding MA towns?  Probate?  Wills?  Deeds?

Documented info re Elizabeth Pratt’s Wetheral, Pratt and Cobb family trees is      available. Maybe Elizabeth, John (either one), or Phebe are mentioned in will or probate of one of these relations?

Elizabeth Pratt and John Crandall’s marriage was recorded in Dighton Town record as officiated by Ezra Richmond.  The Sylvester Richmond family was associated with the Pedo Baptist Congregational Church there.  Were Elizabeth and John Crandall members of this church or another in area?

A cousin points out that very few Crandalls in this time frame died or were buried in Massachusetts. After having lived in MA, are their deaths and burials recorded in RI, CT, or (less likely) NY?

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